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Allow the Chocolatey Fiddler package

When Telerik first acquired Fiddler, the community was afraid that Fiddler would become a paying tool. Telerik made an important statement: "Further, we have learned from the mistakes of others who have acquired free tools only to turn the tables on the developer community and monetize them at a later date." (source: https://www.telerik.com/about/press-releases/2012/09/10/telerik-announces-the-acquisition-of-fiddler).

Recently, Telerik asked Chocolatey, a widely used Windows package management platform (https://chocolatey.org/) to remove Fiddler from the packages list.

Whatever the reasons are, as a Chocolatey and Fiddler user, I am disappointed by that move. I am managing multiple machines, and Chocolatey helps me synchronize and accelerate new setups. Telerik just asked me to force manual installation of Fiddler, as well as manual upgrade (no, I don't want/need as many auto-update software as I have installed software). I see no value in doing so, except maybe forcing user registration (which is monetizing and breaks their promise) or for some legal reason.

I would kindly ask Telerik to take a stance on what was communicated to the community, and allow Chocolatey to provide an easier way to get your tools installed on more machines.

I'm filing this as a bug, since it was working, and it now is broken for me.

Source: https://chocolatey.org/packages/fiddler4

  • Christian Rondeau
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  • Gary Park commented
    29 Jun, 2018 08:45am

    I am very happy to say that there is now an officially supported Fiddler package back on Chocolatey.org:

    https://chocolatey.org/packages/fiddler

    You can find an official blog post on the topic here:

    https://www.telerik.com/blogs/back-by-popular-demand-official-chocolatey-package-with-latest-fiddler-release

  • Post Man commented
    22 Jun, 2018 10:32pm

    Charles Proxy is an awesome alternative - v3 is still free, but v4 is paid

    https://www.charlesproxy.com/previous-release/

  • Post Man commented
    22 Jun, 2018 10:28pm

    This is why I use postman...time to migrate people - see ya fiddler!

  • Christian Rondeau commented
    17 May, 2018 02:08am

    @Tsviatko any news? Are there any business or technical hurdles to go through, still?

  • Alex Lebedev commented
    4 May, 2018 08:48pm

    Can't wait when it will be back! 

  • Gary Park commented
    20 Mar, 2018 07:35pm

    Yip, there should be no issues with going down that route.

  • Tsviatko Yovtchev commented
    20 Mar, 2018 06:07pm

    Thanks Gary. The chances are we will follow the same base pattern as you, i.e. we will not host a copy of Fiddler with Chocolatey. We will just have a dedicated installer downloaded from a URL on our side. Hopefully this will be pretty straightforward to do.

  • Stephen Pittman commented
    19 Mar, 2018 11:08pm

    Good deal, thanks for a good decision

  • Christian Rondeau commented
    19 Mar, 2018 10:08pm

    Tsviatko that is indeed great news, and will help tremendously. I appreciate the attention you gave to this issue, I'm looking forward to its resolution!

  • Gary Park commented
    19 Mar, 2018 07:25pm

    Tsviatko this is great news!  I work for Chocolatey, and was previously the maintainer of the Fiddler package.  Please let me know if there is anything that you need to help with getting this re-instated at chocolatey.org.

  • Fabian Miiro commented
    19 Mar, 2018 07:09pm

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    YEAH!!! It's coming back 😃

     

    Good choice Telerik and thanks whomever who helped bring this into the light internally and fought for it!

  • Tsviatko Yovtchev commented
    19 Mar, 2018 06:59pm

    Yes, at this point of time the chances are we are going to bring Fiddler back to Chocolatey. It will be officially maintained by Progress this time so always latest and greatest. Please, stay tuned while we sort this out.

  • Fabian Miiro commented
    16 Mar, 2018 07:46pm

    I'm super excited over the fact that this ticket just changed into 'Researching'!
    Hoping that Telerik will listen to the community and see the value in allowing us to easily install Fiddler on any  machine. This decision have ment that Fiddler is no longer a part of my regular toolbox, maybe it'll come back.

  • Luke Evans commented
    16 Mar, 2018 12:45pm

    This is a poor showing from Telerik. I jsut tried to install Fiddler from Chocolatey and was unable.
    Please reverse this decision.

  • Chris Charabaruk commented
    4 Mar, 2018 07:10pm

    I wonder if Eric Lawrence would have sold Fiddler to Telerik if he knew it would come to this. Pretty shameful move, Telerik. Looking forward to someone creating an open-source competitor now that'll eat your lunch.

  • Naeem Sarfraz commented
    22 Feb, 2018 09:35am

    Really disappointing move from Telerik and goes against the spirit of the statement they made when they acquired Fiddler. Making it available in package only serves to increase exposure of the company.

  • Mike Hill commented
    6 Feb, 2018 06:16pm

    I'm confused by this move. This makes it more difficult to use Fiddler. Why was this done? This is disappointing.

  • guest commented
    24 Jan, 2018 10:27pm

    You're bad and you should feel bad.

  • Guest commented
    11 Jan, 2018 04:20am

    Making Fiddler available in more channels such as choco will only help get the Tellerik brand out there MORE, and the e-mails you are going to obtain will just wind up being blocked/unsubscribed later.

    Listen to the community of users and provide choco support.

  • dumb move commented
    10 Jan, 2018 06:17pm

    Bad move guys. I'll just use another proxy that wants to have its product used by developers.

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